{"id":8205,"date":"2020-01-27T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-01-27T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/?p=8205"},"modified":"2020-01-27T10:38:12","modified_gmt":"2020-01-27T18:38:12","slug":"behind-the-book-fiona-sze-lorrain-on-translating-ye-lijuns-my-mountain-country","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/2020\/01\/27\/behind-the-book-fiona-sze-lorrain-on-translating-ye-lijuns-my-mountain-country\/","title":{"rendered":"Behind the Book: Fiona Sze-Lorrain on Translating Ye Lijun&#8217;s MY MOUNTAIN COUNTRY"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldpoetrybooks.com\/ye.html\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1003\" height=\"1003\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/SzeLorrainInterviewGraphicUpdated.png\" alt=\"Header image. At the top left, the LR logo, a black circle with the white letters &quot;L&quot; and &quot;R&quot; inside. Beside it, the text &quot;Behind the Book: Fiona Sze-Lorrain + My Mountain Country.&quot; Beneath this header text are two images: a gray rectangle featuring a quote in white brushstroke script (&quot;The main thing I do is to practice listening,&quot;\u2014Fiona Sze-Lorrain on the craft of translation), and, to its left, the cover of the book, with the text, &quot; MY MOUNTAIN COUNTRY: Poems Translated from the Chinese by Fiona Sze-Lorrain, Foreword by Christopher Merrill, Ye Lijun&quot; set in dark brown font against a monochrome photograph of a lush mountainside covered with trees and wispy, parchment-colored mist.\" class=\"wp-image-8220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/SzeLorrainInterviewGraphicUpdated.png 1003w, https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/SzeLorrainInterviewGraphicUpdated-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/SzeLorrainInterviewGraphicUpdated-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/SzeLorrainInterviewGraphicUpdated-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/SzeLorrainInterviewGraphicUpdated-100x100.png 100w, https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/SzeLorrainInterviewGraphicUpdated-70x70.png 70w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1003px) 100vw, 1003px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldpoetrybooks.com\/ye.html\">MY MOUNTAIN COUNTRY by Ye Lijun, translated by Fiona Sze-Lorrain (Word Poetry Books, 2019)<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>In \u201cBehind the Book,\u201d we chat with authors of new or recent volumes of poetry about craft, process, and the stories behind how their books came into being. For this installation, we spoke with poet, translator, and zheng harpist <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Fiona Sze-Lorrain (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.fionasze.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fiona Sze-Lorrain<\/a> about the importance of listening, her belief in &#8220;time and erring from time to time,&#8221; and the pleasure of engaging Ye Lijun&#8217;s poems in her newest work of translation, <\/em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"My Mountain Country (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.worldpoetrybooks.com\/ye.html\" target=\"_blank\">My Mountain Country<\/a><em> (World Poetry Books, 2019). <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">* * *<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>LANTERN REVIEW: <\/strong>What first led you to the work of Ye Lijun? How did you come to translate her poems?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>FIONA SZE-LORRAIN: <\/strong>This question is similar to \u201cWhat first led you to writing a poem?\u201d etc. Ye Lijun\u2019s work appeals to me in part because we share similar preferences: music, visual arts, stargazing, a life outside the mainstream, and more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>Your English translations of Ye\u2019s poems carry a beautiful musicality to them. Can you describe your strategy for considering differences in sonics when translating across languages? What factors do you consider when translating Chinese sonics for the Anglophone ear?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>FSL: <\/strong>The main thing I do is to practice listening, which might not be what one typically associates with translation when one translates. Some translators could be more concerned with the mot juste, the authenticity of texts, for instance, and these are legitimate concerns. I think beyond the technical, textual, or theoretical issues, there can be a more spiritual path. Once one starts focusing on <em>differences<\/em>\u2014or <em>similarities<\/em>, for that matter\u2014in sonics, and thinks about obtaining the \u201cperfect pitch,\u201d one is on a different path. To illustrate metaphorically, I cite two verses from Ye Lijun\u2019s \u201cWhereabouts\u201d:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>A mountain. Down the mountain<\/em><br><em>a tunnel, sometimes echoes of singing late at night<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>Did you have a favorite poem to translate from among those that appear in <em>My Mountain Country<\/em>? If so, what made the experience of working on it so pleasurable? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>FSL: <\/strong>Yes, in fact, I do have several favorite poems: \u201cPortrait at Forty,\u201d \u201cIn Pingyuan Village,\u201d \u201cGrass-things,\u201d \u201cBack to Lotus Summit,\u201d \u201cPersonal Life,\u201d \u201cDelirium,\u201d and others. It isn\u2019t difficult to share why the experience of working on these poems was, to borrow your words, \u201cso pleasurable\u201d: I like the poems, their narratives and simplicity. Beyond the \u201cpleasure experience,\u201d the poems themselves believe in contentment. They aren\u2019t competitive and do not care about dominating others or being right. I am still learning much from the poems in <em>My Mountain Country<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>You have also authored several original collections of poetry. How does your process for revising, ordering, and putting together a translated work differ from your process for putting together a collection of your own poems (if at all)? Are there any constant stars to which you find yourself returning time and again?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>FSL: <\/strong>I have written three original collections of poetry. I don\u2019t know if three is defined as several. I have written poems that can\u2019t find a place in those three books. And I have written poems that are just terrible, even though they need to be written. The curiosity about one\u2019s process of putting work together in aim of publication\u2014in \u201cbook form\u201d\u2014is a results-oriented question and outlook. It produces a certain voyeurism. If one begins to figure a formula out for all these mysteries, in hope of applying it as frequently as possible to as many projects possible so as to achieve \u201csuccess,\u201d one is seeking a product and writing for a commodity culture or industry. It is hard for me to champion that sort of mentality. I believe in time and erring from time to time:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>I have returned . . . Again and again<\/em><br><em>in the backyard<\/em><br><em>I plant seeds, mistakes, love<\/em><br>\u2014from Ye Lijun\u2019s \u201cA Mountain Hut\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>You say in your note at the end of the book that you first began translating Ye\u2019s poems in 2011, nine years ago. When working on a project over such a long period of time, what helps you reorient yourself and gain a sense of overall trajectory each time you return to the work?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>FSL: <\/strong>Why think of nine years as \u201clong\u201d or \u201cshort\u201d? Three seconds can be short or transient, but three seconds in bed with a lover is another thing, another permanence. If you believe in time the way I do, this question will take care of itself. This goes for the anxieties of translation. The \u201ckick\u201d one gets out of poetry\u2014and its translation\u2014has to do with one\u2019s willingness to take the path of and in an unknown spacetime.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">* * *<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Fiona Sze-Lorrain (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.fionasze.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Fiona Sze-Lorrain<\/strong><\/a> is a poet, translator, and zheng harpist who writes and translates in English, Chinese, French, and occasionally Spanish. The author of three books of poetry, most recently <\/em>The Ruined Elegance<em> (Princeton, 2016), a finalist for the Los Angeles Times Book Prize, she has translated multiple volumes of contemporary Chinese, French, and American poets. Her work was shortlisted for the 2016 Best Translated Book Award and longlisted for the 2014 PEN Award for Poetry in Translation. Her latest translation is Ye Lijun\u2019s <\/em>My Mountain Country <em>(World Poetry Books, 2019). <\/em>A Blue Dark<em>, a joint exhibition of Fritz Horstman\u2019s ink drawings alongside Sze-Lorrain\u2019s poems and translations handwritten in ink on treated washi, was held at the Institute Library in New Haven last summer. Sze-Lorrain is a 2019\u20132020 Abigail R. Cohen Fellow at the Columbia Institute for Ideas and Imagination. As a zheng harpist, she has performed worldwide. She lives in Paris. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;<br>Note: This post was updated on 1\/27 to reflect a corrected version of MY MOUNTAIN COUNTRY&#8217;s cover image and an update to our introduction: Fiona Sze-Lorrain is a poet, translator, and zheng harpist; not merely a poet and translator. 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