{"id":1476,"date":"2010-04-05T09:49:42","date_gmt":"2010-04-05T14:49:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lanternreview.com\/blog\/?p=1476"},"modified":"2010-04-05T10:15:21","modified_gmt":"2010-04-05T15:15:21","slug":"a-conversation-with-mong-lan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/2010\/04\/05\/a-conversation-with-mong-lan\/","title":{"rendered":"A Conversation With Mong-Lan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em> <\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1486\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1486\" style=\"width: 466px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><em><em><a href=\"http:\/\/lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/MongLanImage.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1486\" title=\"MongLanImage\" src=\"http:\/\/lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/MongLanImage.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"466\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/MongLanImage.jpg 466w, https:\/\/www.lanternreview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/MongLanImage-300x144.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 466px) 100vw, 466px\" \/><\/a><\/em><\/em><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1486\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mong-Lan and two of her book covers.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>Mong-Lan is a Vietnamese-born American poet, writer, painter, photographer, and Argentine tango dancer and teacher.\u00a0 Mong-Lan&#8217;s first book of poems, <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/1558493077\/monglan04-20\">Song of the Cicadas<\/a><em>, won the 2000 Juniper Prize from UMASS Press and the 2002 Great Lakes Colleges Association&#8217;s New Writers Awards for Poetry.\u00a0 Her other books of poetry include <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/1932195289\/monglan04-20\">Why is the Edge Always Windy?<\/a><em>; <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0615188001\/monglan04-20\">Tango, Tangoing: Poems &amp; Art<\/a><em>, the bilingual Spanish \/ English edition, <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0578033615\/monglan04-20\">Tango, Tangueando: Poemas &amp; Dibujos<\/a><em> and <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0615146562\/monglan04-20\">Love Poem to Tofu and Other Poems<\/a><em> (chapbook). A Wallace E. Stegner Fellow in poetry for two years at Stanford University and a Fulbright Fellow in Vietnam, Mong-Lan received her Master of Fine Arts from the University of Arizona.\u00a0 Her poetry has been frequently anthologized, having been included in <\/em>Best American Poetry<em>, <\/em>The Pushcart Book of Poetry: Best Poems from 30 Years of the Pushcart Prize<em>; <\/em>Asian American Poetry \u2014The Next Generation<em>, and has appeared in leading American literary journals. Her paintings and photographs have been exhibited at the Capitol House in Washington D.C.,\u00a0 for six months at the Dallas Museum of Art, at the Museum of Fine Arts in Houston, in galleries in the San Francisco Bay Area, and in public exhibitions in Tokyo, Bali, Bangkok, Buenos Aires and Seoul. Based in Buenos Aires, Mong-Lan travels frequently.\u00a0 Visit: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.monglan.com\">www.monglan.com <\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>You are both a visual artist and a poet, and both of these art forms have a strong presence in your books.\u00a0 How have your sensibilities as a visual artist have influenced your poetry&#8217;s aesthetic?\u00a0 Did you come to one through the other?\u00a0 At what point did the two interests begin to intersect?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ML: <\/strong>My sensibilities as a visual artist have influenced greatly my poetry\u2019s aesthetic.\u00a0 The open field of the page is important to me, just as the blank canvas or white sheet of paper is to the visual artist.\u00a0 When writing poetry, I think in spatial terms, not just linearly.\u00a0 So, in this way, I concern myself with the placement of words on the page, using the way words bounce off each other, the connotation of words next to each other, above, below, to the right and left, and diagonal. In <em>Tango, Tangoing<\/em>, my latest book, you can read certain poems not only left to right, but down one column, then down another column.<strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t come to one art through the other.\u00a0 A visual artist since childhood, I showed my artworks in Houston and then in San Francisco, where I flowered and came to mature as a visual artist in the very liberal atmosphere there.\u00a0 At the same time, I was writing since high school, scribbling in journals my feelings, emotions, narratives, stories and things that I couldn\u2019t depict visually in paintings.<\/p>\n<p>Both poetry and the visual arts are twin sisters, and it\u2019s easy for me to shift from one to the other.\u00a0 I find that these arts complement each other.\u00a0 And, so, there in San Francisco in the 90\u2019s, I found myself as a poet as well as a visual artist, giving readings with other Vietnamese-American writers\/poets.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>When you are putting together a collection of poems that will include visual artwork &#8212; how do you view the art in relationship to the text?\u00a0 Do you see the art as illustrations of your poems? As a kind of visual poetry in and of itself?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ML: <\/strong>In my first two books, <em>Song of the Cicadas<\/em> and <em>Why is the Edge Always Windy?<\/em>, the text is primary, and the visuals secondary.\u00a0 The artwork in both books were used more as appetizers and section dividers.\u00a0 <em>In Song of the Cicadas<\/em>, I included pen and ink drawings that I drew when I was in Vietnam, the same time I was writing the book itself.\u00a0 It just happened, naturally and synchronistically like that.<\/p>\n<p>Because many people commented on my artwork in both books, I decided to include more of them in my next books.\u00a0 In the chapbook, <em>Love Poem to Tofu &amp; Other Poems<\/em>, and in <em>Tango, Tangoing: Poems &amp; Art<\/em>, the artworks are very integral to the books, indeed [they] complement the text a great deal, although the texts can stand by themselves.\u00a0 There are many more drawings\/paintings in these latter two books\u2014they\u2019re more like entrees and not just appetizers.<\/p>\n<p>The artworks in my books can stand by themselves; thus, they are not mere illustrations. Yet, they do illuminate the text and add another dimension to it.\u00a0 Yes, I would consider my artworks a kind of visual poetry in and of itself.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><strong>LR: <\/strong><em>Tango, Tangoing<\/em> and <em>Love Poem to Tofu and Other Poems<\/em> both engage with the use of strong, fluid brushstrokes reminiscent of Chinese calligraphy.\u00a0 The conversation between Western-style poetry and the visual aspects borrowed from a traditional Asian form of poetic expression is truly fascinating.\u00a0 How would you describe your aims in juxtaposing the two?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ML: <\/strong>Well, I was living in Tokyo for five years, from 2002 until 2007, and the brush calligraphy that I saw on a daily basis on the streets was beautifully overwhelming.\u00a0 It invaded my senses!\u00a0 I also took a few classes in brush calligraphy, painting\/writing kanji (Japanese for Chinese characters).\u00a0 While the importance of the brush stroke is not new to me, being a painter since childhood, it took on new dimensions of its own as an aesthetic in its own right.\u00a0 I basically use brushstrokes with these same calligraphic techniques and apply them to my art.\u00a0 While one could consider it a \u201ctraditional Asian form,\u201d it\u2019s also being practiced left and right in Japan and China and other parts of Asia today.\u00a0 Yes, in my books, you find a juxtaposition of the East and the West, just as in my being and psyche, there\u2019s a juxtaposition of East and West.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>The artwork included in your poetry collections employs a variety of different media: whereas <em>Tango, Tangoing <\/em>and <em>Love Poem to Tofu<\/em> engage with a more painterly style, <em>Song of the Cicadas<\/em> features line drawings between its sections and one of your photographs on its cover.\u00a0 Can you talk a little bit about your process in deciding what sorts of visual media will best lend themselves to a text?\u00a0 How has the arc of your visual\/textual projects evolved from book to book?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ML: <\/strong>My first two books were written from 1995 \u2013 2000, although they were published later &#8212; <em>Song of Cicadas<\/em> in 2001, and <em>Why is Edge Always Windy?<\/em> in 2005.\u00a0\u00a0 My mentor at the time when I was putting <em>Song of the Cicadas <\/em>together, Jane Miller, suggested that photography catches people\u2019s eyes more.\u00a0 At that time, I was working on these montage photographs of Vietnam, and I decided to use [one] for the cover.\u00a0 Luckily, the publisher liked it.<\/p>\n<p>As mentioned earlier, I lived in Tokyo from 2002-2007, and during this time, I was working on the later two books, <em>Love Poem to Tofu<\/em> and <em>Tango, Tangoing<\/em>.\u00a0 It was a function of my environmental influences, more than anything.\u00a0 The art I was creating was influenced greatly by where I was living and the environment I was immersed in.\u00a0 And I simply used this art for my books.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>Last month on the <em>LR<\/em> Blog, we did a number of posts about ekphrastic poetry.\u00a0 How do you engage with ekphrastic processes in your work?\u00a0 What visual artists have most inspired you?\u00a0 Do your poems ever emerge from pieces of your own artwork?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ML: <\/strong>No, I don\u2019t think poems ever emerge from pieces of my own artwork, although, it\u2019s an interesting idea.\u00a0 I\u2019ve never written about a painting I\u2019ve done, because it seems to me that once I\u2019ve painted it, I can move to a different theme or idea and not repeat it in writing.<\/p>\n<p>But, I have, for example, used the tango as an inspiration, and have written poetry stemming from the experience of tango.\u00a0 And, in the same book, included drawings of tango dancers, what I saw in the tango dance halls, or milongas.\u00a0 So, in this instance, my artistic activities stemmed from the same source.<\/p>\n<p>I have taught classes in which I gave my students that as an assignment, ekphrastic poetry, and it has been helpful in exploring a visual artist\u2019s psyche, ideas and intentions.<\/p>\n<p>With regard to artists that have inspired me, I have loved Kandinsky\u2019s paintings for his use of color and that of Paul Klee for his whimsicality and playfulness.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>In many ways, you are an artist whose work expands across (even defies) linguistic and national boundaries.\u00a0 You were born in Vietnam, and the Vietnamese language occasionally makes little cameo appearances in your poetry.\u00a0 Tango, Tangoing has also been released in a bilingual Spanish-English edition.\u00a0 How would you position yourself in relation to these multiple linguistic modes &#8212; and how does your engagement with them inform your work?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ML: <\/strong>I grew up speaking Vietnamese within the family, and went back to Vietnam several times, first on my own for half a year, then later on a Fulbright Fellowship to write and do research.\u00a0 In those instances I was able to deepen my knowledge of Vietnamese.\u00a0 I\u2019m also fluent in Spanish, and indeed, I love the Spanish language.\u00a0 I am now based in Buenos Aires, and have been based here over a year now.\u00a0 I\u2019ve been coming to Buenos Aires since 2001 for periods of several weeks to a month, for the tango.\u00a0 When I go out onto the streets of Buenos Aires, I feel a sense of elation merely listening to Spanish.<\/p>\n<p>With regard to other languages, I also speak French fluently, and am working on my fluency in Italian.\u00a0 Living in Tokyo for five years, I learned Japanese, but have since forgotten quite a bit.\u00a0 I also lived in Bangkok for six months and took lessons in Thai every day, but it is a difficult language to remember if you aren\u2019t immersed in it everyday.<\/p>\n<p>Knowing these languages has helped me broaden my mind culturally and syntactically, and I think this has deepened my involvement with the English language as well.\u00a0 The English language is a rich language that generously takes in other languages.\u00a0 In my writing, I\u2019ve written about the various places I\u2019ve lived, such as Bangkok and Tokyo, and of course Vietnam and Argentina, and knowing the language of the country is essential to understanding its culture.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>You are also a dancer.\u00a0 In what ways have the forms and physical knowledge of the human body helped to shape both your poetic craft and visual aesthetic?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ML: <\/strong>Dancing tango gave rise to <em>Tango, Tangoing<\/em>.\u00a0 Indeed, dancing is an affirmation of the body, the body as a means to express the joy of life, the earth and the universe.\u00a0 I\u2019ve known writers and poets who negate their bodies, and identify only with their minds.<\/p>\n<p>Dancing has taught me to flow in my life as well as in my art.\u00a0 Not only did I begin to write poetry that was a direct result of my tango dance experience, I started to do drawings and also paintings on canvas of tango dancers, showing the movement and flow of the dance.\u00a0 More than the form and physical knowledge of the human body, dance has taught me to flow in other areas of my life.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>What projects are you working on at the moment?<br \/>\n<strong>ML: <\/strong>I\u2019m working on a novel, another book of poems, paintings on canvas and paper, photography, and tango choreography.\u00a0 I\u2019m also working on a catalog of my paintings and artwork.\u00a0 It\u2019s a handful!<\/p>\n<p><strong>LR: <\/strong>What advice would you give to younger poets who might be considering how to integrate their engagement with visual or performing arts with their writing?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ML: <\/strong>Experiment with everything you know.\u00a0 See how your interests fit together synergistically.\u00a0 Learn from tradition, but don\u2019t be afraid to break it.\u00a0 And, 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